babs thinks she’s dying so she goes on some ~last wish business~ before checking into the jsa for surgery
bruce drops in for a late night visit and finds her asleep, so he tucks a loose strand of hair behind her ear, kisses her forehead and leaves
(bruce’s girls bring out an quiet tenderness in him that i love; people tend to overwhelmingly focus on his relationships with the robins, which is fine, but his wonderful relationships with barbara and cass tend to get sidelined, which is unfortunate given their unique dynamic)
birds of prey vol 1 #84
I adore this moment. It really captures Bruce to me very well. There’s no huge cataclysmal event going on (at least, not yet), as the gangs of the city are imploding, but war hasn’t broken out, and there’s no immediate massive destructive threat looming right now. Right now, fights just keep breaking out and expanding and continuing, and none of them really know what’s going on yet but they’re doing the best they can, with hugely limited resources, to minimize damage.
So Babs drops her boss some intel, and Bruce heads that way and says thanks, and before Barbara moves on, she says, “Stay strong, Bruce.”
It’s not as if anyone important to them has just been killed or anything - there’s no tragedy hanging over their heads - she just reminds him mildly to stay strong. There’s nothing particularly kitchsy or powerful about it, it’s just like a standard thing. Bruce is tired, Babs is tired, they don’t want this fight to start but it’s definitely starting, and despite the pressure seriously beginning to mount, they are kind to each other.
“Stay strong, Bruce.”
“I can understand why DC would give Barbara her legs back. Bruce had his back broken and recovered almost instantly and Damian was given a whole new spine. DC was running out of excuses for why Batgirl was still in a chair.”
I thought about Gail Simone’s women in refrigerators. I think it was about time that a woman finally had a chance to redeem themselves stronger and more powerful than they were before their incident.
Except, legs don’t make you strong and powerful. Babs was victimized, but she wasn’t a victim. Her comeback as Oracle was infinitely more powerful than being magically healed. It’s fine if you like the recon and it’s fine if you like her as Batgirl more than you liked her as Oracle. But Babs did overcome her incident in her own way. She owned her experience and turned it into a strength. She’s spiritually greater than Bruce Wayne ever was.
“She’s spiritually greater than Bruce Wayne ever was.”
Bless. I mean there is a reason why Dick says Babs is the strongest person he knows. Heck even Bruce has said that fact. And think about the people these two know. And then realize what that says about Babs.
Disney characters Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon
“She’s like ridiculously good at everything.” Yeah I think that pretty much sums up Barbara Gordon perfectly.
Q:Hello :) Because I was curious and love fusions/crossovers: what god tier classes and aspects would you give to each of the batfam members?
I totally forgot this question, or I would’ve been on top of it waaaay earlier. But thank you SO much for asking! Here we go:
Bruce: Knight of Void (“The role of the void player is to somehow em8race nothingness, to 8ecome one with it. And yet in total contradiction with this, to make use of the power it grants and serve a role of relevance, one must find a way to overcome it! To see the limitless potential in the void, and 8ring it into 8eing” come on PERFECT FOR HIM)
Dick: Heir of Heart
Jay: Mage of Life (tempted to go with Mage of Doom - just like Sollux)
Tim: Page of Mind (come on, perfect for him. Pages have limited powers at first but HUGE powers later on, and Mind is the opposite of Heart - logical, cold, deductive)
Babs: Knight of Space (ok just think about that one for a second perfect PERFECT); alternatively, Knight of Light
Cass: Sylph of Time (same as me!!!)
Steph: Witch of Hope (just like Alex’s and my troll Reeliu! although Reeliu is actually based on a real person so)
Damian: Prince of Blood (ok just let that one sink in for a while)
Talia: Witch of Blood, for defs
Kate: Mage of Rage sounds way too silly…Maid of Rage?
Helena (Bertinelli): tempted to go with Knight of Time actually, just like Dave
Renee (shhhh she’s included): Seer of Life (after 52 especially? oh yes)
David Zavimbe: Knight of Light (Batwing4lyfe)
Bilal Asselah (Bilal I miss you sob): Sylph of Life (lots of Life babies huh)
I was watching Plinkett’s reviews of the prequel Star Wars movies (which are really good) and he pointed out a problem with the prequels that I never noticed but always disliked.
He said, essentially that Darth Vader was only made to be a big deal in the prequels because of the real world’s love of him. In the original movies, Vader was just a lap dog for the Emperor. He wasn’t even the highest ranked, he had to listen to Tarkin. People made fun of him. Vader was important to the STORY, yeah, but he wasn’t important to the GALAXY until this line about the a prophecy to bring balance to the Force. His point was that Anakin, as a character, was made into a HUGE DEAL because he was so popular in OUR world.
I think this is what’s happened to Barbara Gordon. I loved Barbara because she struggled to be part of the boy’s club (as all female bats do. It’s not JUST the girls, everyone has to earn their keep but you get my point). Barbara was Batgirl. She wasn’t the sidekick but she anyone that people knew, that had a lot of say in what went on even with Batman. By the time she was Oracle, she had earned her spots and was recognized for her skills but she still had to fight to get her point across. She EARNED her place in the JLA and as Gotham’s and then the World’s infojock because of all her hard work.
New 52, not so much. Suddenly, she’s always been MEANT to be Batgirl. She’s always right, her emotions are always justified, her attitude is always right. She can hit her close friends without any ramifications. Her roommate is so great to just understand that the girl that just moved in and hasn’t been around comes home nearly dead and refuses to say why.
There’s no struggle anymore. Yes, there are the conflicts with her rogues, but that’s all very straight-forward plot. She’s already a respected hero among everyone and there’s not more struggle. Even her internal struggle to be the Batgirl-she-used-to-be idolizes the Batgirl she used to be, like she was as important as Oracle came to be. While Batgirl is a respectable character and WE know why she was so important, it’s hard to believe she was really that big of an impact before being shot. Not that she DIDN’T do good, but how much could she have done to gain so much of Bruce’s respect that he doesn’t bat an eye at her, even when she’s getting people killed in trains and obviously shows psychological trauma still.
DC said it themselves. She was put back into the Batgirl cowl because she was ICONIC. That’s it. That’s the reason. And we SEE that in the writing. We see Can-Do-No-Wrong hero in her book. We see everyone reacting to her like they KNOW she’s so popular in the real world without any written reason why. These connections are shallow and fake and they feel and look fake when reading her plots and interactions. It’s like everyone senses she’s Big in Japan and can’t look past it so we - or I guess I since this is all speculative - as a reader can’t look past it.
A hero shouldn’t be based on how much others know about what they’ve done. We as readers know their trials and victories but that doesn’t mean everyone does. Readers can relate to unseen victories, to unsung heroes, to being a small ant in a big world. Yes, Superman gets main news coverage but Superman is a different type of hero than Batgirl is. Both are heroic, both make a difference, but Batgirl isn’t as famous as Superman is and there are reasons for that.
Barbara Gordon was a connection to fans that didn’t share the rich and male lifestyle of Bruce Wayne or the Robins. She was an individual kicking it with the big dogs when it mattered but being a hero for the people Batman couldn’t always get to. The new Barbara Gordon lacks that small-time hero charm without the validation for actually earning her place just yet.